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of low-hanging fruit, right? totally voluntary thing. i mean who could be opposed to this? the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to vo
reduce gun violence. we will help schools. >> for the record, that is kind of what the nra has been demanding. remember the nra came out after newtown demanding that there must be armed officers in schools. president obama calmly today said, yeah, sure. if schools want to have more armed officers in school, sure, they can do that. we'll just have to do a whole bunch of other things too. but your idea? sure, that's something we can do. in response, the nra is telling its members that they will stand and fight. that this will be the war of the century. woo, we got what we wanted. it took joe biden less than 29 months to meet with 229 groups in the process of coming up with this menu of options from which president obama assembled this plan today. the speed of this effort continues to outpace its own expectations. the president said he wanted expectations by the end of this month. it's not the end of the month yet. vice president biden initially said you won't get them at the end of the month. you're going to get them early, you're going to get them on the 15th. he then turned his reco
" from new york. the nra wants a assault weapons ban off the table. the white house disagrees. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> i do not think there is going to be a ban on so-called assault weapons passed by the congress. >> the nra continues their denial campaign. and vice president joe biden resumed his task force today. mark glaze has the detail on the nra's agenda. >>> gun extremists won't give up and are as wacky as ever in the face of reform. the latest civil rights. >> i believe that gun appreciation day honors the legacy of dr. king. >> michael eric dyson sets them straight tonight. >>> congressman phil gingrey backs up todd akin's disgusting lame. >> a woman's body has a way of shutting down so the pregnancy would not occur. he is partly right on that. >> karen finney on the gop's newest charge on women. >>> howard dean gives us the outlook on filibuster reform. >>> and the trillion dollar coin. >> you guys have a position on this trillion dollar coin business? >> it's just crazy enough to work. chris nowinski of the sports legacy institute lays out the n
on this subject. the gun lobby, the nra at least, in some ways is a victim of their own success. their political m.o. is to prevent anybody from even bringing up gun control legislation, to make it seem politically impossible to even broach the subject. and so they're not used to having the debate, their side of the argument, with powerful, motivated, organized proponents of the opposite view. in other words, they have been so successful at shutting down any possible debate over gun control in this country that they now seem legitimately surprised that there might be a legitimate debate in this country over gun control. their reaction today to their meeting with vice president joe biden in washington was that they said they were disappointed. that was their word, "dispointed," that one of the subjects of discussion was reforming gun laws. what did you think you were there to talk about? this is the list of gun owner groups and gun advocacy groups that vice president biden met with today. in this ongoing series of meetings he's having toward producing a list of recommendations that we now know will
. what's the nra done? gone after the president's daughters. people are hurt by what happened to those first graders. it's not a smart move to be out there backing the gun runners. for sure it's not good to sell in the suburbs or the cities. it may not even sell in the country. nobody likes what happened in connecticut and a decent society will get off its butt. a decent society will get off its butt. both the gun kind and the other kind. collin goddard was a survivor of the 2007 virginia tech shootings. he's now with the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. and mark glazer is the director of mayors against illegal guns. for measures he could control through the executive branch. they range from nominating a permanent atf director to new measures on mental health and school safety and a campaign promoting gun safety for owners. but he also called on congress to take on the problem legislatively. >> these are a few of the 23 executive actions that i'm announcing today, but as important as these steps are, they are in no way a substitute for action from members of congress. it's time
that into your browser what you find is you land on the nra home page. you get redirected to the national rifle association, to the opposite side of the gun reform argument. and that is because organizing for action failed to register their own natural domain names when they launched. the website tech president noticed this on monday. organizing for action failed to get organizingforaction.net, organizingforaction.org or organizingforaction.com. so all of those sites have been swooped by republicans and nra supporters. seriously? yeah. come on now, wow. but in the department of clouds and silver linings, if these embarrassing early fails from supposedly the greatest political geniuses on earth, if these failures are kind of a cloud when it comes to the prospects for gun reform, around this cloud is also a silver lining, and her name is debbie halvorson. debbie halvorson is a democrat from illinois. she used to serve as majority of the state senate and then spent two years in congress. but now that jesse jackson jr. has resigned, debbie halvorson is one of many democrats who have thrown their ha
the latest on what we know about these americans being held hostage >>> up front, the nra has taken on gun control with a controversial new ad involving sasha and mali aobama. >>> many were moved by the touching story of a notre dame football player overcoming the death of his girlfriend. were we all duped? overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are troubling times in the kingdom. more discounts than we knoweth what to do with. now that's progressive. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set
and on whether the president's campaign can work. michael steele on the dispickble nra ad attacking the president's kids. >> plus, obama for america is getting the fan back together to fight the nra. >> it is time to get activated, again. >> former obama deputy campaign manager stephanie cutter joins me tonight. and congresswoman january shakowski on the return of the public option. >> good to have you with us tonight. folks, thanks for watching. there cannot be another false start in curbing gun violence in this country. today, the path for change was paved. president obama announced proposals for sweeping reforms to gun laws in this country in the wake of the horror at the wake of the horror at sandy hook elementary, it's gut check time for america. >> this is our first task as a soet. keeping our children safe. this is how we will be judged. >> horrible gun violence is not isolated to one cold december day in connecticut. every day wasted leads to more lost lives. >> keeping our children safe. precious children and six brave adults were violently taken from us at sandyhook, elementary. more th
news talks about how the nra has put out a new app that allows young children and everybody ages 4 and up, to use assault weapons on an iphone app. at an early age, i guess. >> someone sent me the apps available on iphones and other phones. >> how sick is this? how sick are these people running a great organization, proud organization? how sick are these people that have commandeered the nra and turned them into an extremist operation for survivalist and gun manufacturers? how many million s s of dollars have people made over the slaul slaughter of innocents, now they're doing this. >> at the top of the house, nra does not represent gun owners. they represent manufacturers and money. >> there you go. >> they don't represent million s of americans that want to defend themselves. harold, you're from tennessee, an nra supporter. l let's talk about people in the northeast that don't understand what nra has been, what a great organization it has been through the years. how the organization has not always been the organization it became in the mid-1990s. could you explain gun owners and
to "morning joe." it's funny, that ad was fake. we have a real one by the nra which we will show you coming up, which it should be fake. it's wednesday, january 16th. good to have everyone with us. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. hello, mike. >> hello. >> you look nice today. >> thank you. >> donny, doesn't he put together well in. >> on the barnicle scale. >> he's adorable. chairman of deutsche incorporated, donny deutsch. >> but -- you know what? it's okay. i put a lot of effort into my has be haberdashery and still no comment. >> now ceo of melanie barnes solutions, melanie barnes, you worked in the white house very high up. huh. interesting. notice anything here, gentlemen? >> yeah, where is he? >> oh, joe's here. he's coming. he's going to pop up on screen. i was just noticing that melanie happens to be a woman and worked in the white house. >> and worked in the white house. >> good god! >> policy adviser. >> this is something. take note. no, but i should do a blog on cool women like you. so we'll have to catch up. and joe's going to be joining us. actually i see
." >>> the number of american husband holds with guns is on the decline but the nra's power is growing. it is growing even after newtown. breaking news, one american has been killed in the algeria hostage situation. we'll tell you what we know about that man and the other americans we are aware of tonight. let's get straight to jill dougherty at the state department. first, jill, what can you tell us about the american who died? >> there are not a lot of details. we can confirm according to a senior u.s. official that one american is dead. family has been notified that this person has died. but other than that, where they died, how they died, and maybe when they died, is not clear. after all, this began three days ago. and then the operation has been ongoing for two days. so not clear. a lot of those details. i can tell you that this afternoon, before this news broke, secretary of state hillary clinton did express condolences to the families of those people, people from several countries, who died in this terrorist act. and yet at this point we don't know many details at all of how man
the american people, including nra members, including gun owners, are saying we should be doing something. one of the things that we noticed, most people, nra members, gun owners, didn't know that everybody was not going through a background check. they didn't realize that 40% of gun owners are getting their guns without going through a background check. these are all law-abiding citizens when they go to buy their guns. why isn't everybody else? that's what we're fighting for, and the president is not trying to be a king. he's trying to save lives. >> we're getting a mixed message from the right, but here is the crazier talk. already there's pushback to the potential of new federal gun laws in the states highlighted on your screen. for example, state lawmakers in wyoming, texas, and tennessee proposed outlawing any enforcement of these laws. that's nullification, pre-civil war talk. and by the way, sheriffs in kentucky and oregon have said no to enforcing them. these are people saying i'm going to break the law by not enforcing federal government law. in mississippi the governor asked his stat
term. but fewer than half of americans approve of what he's doing. here is the bottom line. is the nra winning the gun debate? >>> plus doctors racing to save the vision of a man attacked a acid. police investigating whether his work with the ballet is the reason for the horrific attack. [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing zolpidem, such as ambien. allergic reactions such as shortness of breath or swelling of your tongue or throat may occur and may be fatal. intermezzo should not be taken if you have taken another sleep medicine at b
on to the national rifle association. >> his office sent it to the nra? then less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing, on a day that had been proclaimed a national day of mourning for police killed in the line of duty, less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing, the nra took out a national newspaper ad defending a fund-raising letter that they had just sent which called federal law enforcement personnel jackbooted thugs. this is less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing. president george h.w. bush resigned his life membership in the nra in protest. ultimately, even after they first defended it, the nra was forced to apologize for the "jackbooted thugs" thing. and ultimately, old steve stockman did get voted out of office in texas in 1996. he'd only served one term in the house. but you know what happened to steve stockman in the long run? in this past election in 2012, the one we just had, steve stockman got voted back into office. texas decided to send him back. and then yeah, he was the guy who even before president obama said what he wanted to do on gun reform this week
. >>> if the nra has such influence, why is one of its most senior lobbyists criticizing it? >>> and later in the show, the ceo of yahoo. she's an instant rock star. she's crashed servers around the planet today. let's go "outfront." snoop >>> good evening. i'm erin burnett and "outfront" tonight the mali terror connection. u.s. officials are zeroing in on terrorists based in northern mali as the suspects behind last week's terror attack in algeria. three americans were killed in that attack, seven survived. barbara starr broke this news today. u.s. officials now say this is the case. why aren't they entirely sure who is behind an attack which frankly was this big, this ambitious, this significant? >> good evening. the big problem right now of course is algerian intelligence. still not sharing full information with the u.s., so the u.s. doesn't have the full picture. the cia turning to other ways to try and find out what has happened here. planes, drones, telephone intercepts, agents on the ground. all of that at their disposal should they be choosing to use it. all of this now leading to
at the same witness table as the nra's wayne lapierre. >> you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> as the rest of the country something must be done to prevent gun violence. the nra and the allies in the republican party are digging in. we'll look at what president obama can and can't accomplish on gun safety at the top of the program. >>> plus does president obama want a deal on illegal immigration? which would be huge on his legacy. or does he want the issue hanging around so republicans get punished at the polls by latino voters. we'll get some answers tonight. >>> and it may be last call for the tea party. consider this. republicans with national ambitions claim they want tome to stop being the stupid party. conservatives are working with democrats on illegal immigration. and fox news parts ways with sarah palin. dana milbank says it's all evidence the tea party is losing steam and he's with us tonight. >>> plus the boy scouts of america are considering dropping their ban on gay volunteers and members. it's another sign of the progress this country has m
. and she called this, meaning armed guards at banks and restaurants, the nra's vision of the promised land. the nra never said anything like that. they have a very -- >> bob: yes, they did. >> andrea: no, they did not. they have a high approval rating. in our country we have armed guards. we have them at banks and certain areas of new york city. police on the street that are armed with guns. we are not some lawless third world country. it doesn't make sense. >> greg: what is wrong with a police state? i'd rather have a police state than criminal state. >> dana: no, you wouldn't. >> greg: yes, i would. >> dana: no. >> bob: you would be the first one picked up. >> dana: okay. i'll buy that. if i could comment on the media part of it and the reporting. i love the factbe part of it. >> gregpress secretary for repun administration when you deal with reporters that come up with in this kind of a storyline the only thing you can do is arm yourself with facts and repeat them over and over and over again. that's why the nra approval rating is higher than the liberals would like to see it at this po
insight into that fascinating meeting today at the white house between vice president biden and the nra. what can the vice president, what can the white house reasonably expect to get out of the nra today? >> the nra is going to go in there with a conciliatory face. they're being smart. they're sending not their top lobbyist but an official who has worked with biden over the years, worked with him in the '90s in the senate, is actually friends with him from the delaware beach, jim baker, the nra's number two, but he's coming with a very hard message. the nra told me that in the past 18 days, their paid memberships have gone up 100,000. they've gone from 4.1 million to 4.2 million. and they tell me that before this debate is over, they want to get to 5 million. so the nra sees this fight as a growth opportunity. willie, it's $25 a year, you get a free camo duffel bag with that. and we're told that jim baker, the nra lobbyist, is going to tell vice president biden we're willing to discuss, talk to you about any possible constructive solution, but here's the kicker, we listen to people bey
must do something. >> gabby giffords makes a surprise emotional plea, and the nra responds with nonsense. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you missed that point completely. >> tonight senator sheldon whitehouse on today's dramatic day of testimony. plus, dan gross of the brady campaign on the heroes fighting for gun safety and the villains who want to keep it the way it is. >>> the republican obsession with european austerity. kneecap the nation's economy. david cay johnston on today's troubling gdp report. >>> bobby jindal breaks his own rule. >> we've got to stop being the stupid party. >> find out how the poor in his state are about to start suffering on friday. >>> and brand-new polling proves again that we're living in a center-left country. tonight i'll tell you why it's up to one person to keep it that way. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. an emotional scene on capitol hill today. former congresswoman gabrielle giffords returned to congress for a senate hearing on gun violence. two years ago, giffords was shot in the head
regarding comments that the nra is gearing up to sell guns. and former secretary of state colin powell calls out republicans on race. >> there is also a dark vein of intolerance. >> dr. peterson joins me to discuss the republican response. good to have you with us tonight, folks, thank you for joining us. president obama took on the single greatest threat to the economy today, the republican party. the president used the conference in his first term to throw down the gauntlet, and after confusion, president obama set the record straight on the debt ceiling. >> now the other imposition is called the debt ceiling. something most americans had not heard of before two years ago. so i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> and of course republicans tried to trick americans into believing the debt ceiling was a blank check or magic credit card for the president to go spend whatever he wanted to
to give up the two guns that we have locked in a safe at home. what we do want is what the majority of nra members and other americans want: responsible changes in our laws to require responsible gun ownership and reduce gun violence." taking the argument beyond gunowners versus nongunowner, taking the argument beyond absolutist gun anarchy versus a complete gun ban, this turn away from that kind of binary nonsense is the kind of turn in the conversation that typically signifies that there might be movement ahead, that people are getting real about maybe actually getting something done. at the same time on the same day, on the same anniversary, another overture today from roxanna green. the mother of 9-year-old christina taylor green who was killed in the tucson shooting two years ago. she appears in an ad that appeared in seven cities today including washington, d.c. and tucson. this ad is paid for by the mayors against illegal guns action fund. but the thing i find striking about it is that it is not just an issue ad to try to get people riled up or even to get people thinking about this
to compete with the nra and to support a pro reform agenda. part of the political power there is not just that gabby giffords was nearly killed in that pass shooting in tucson, but also that she and her husband are both gunowners and out and proud supporters of the second amendment. but they're nevertheless saying there needs to be reform. in fact, are saying that respect for the second amendment and reform are not incompatible things. well, today in arizona, the person who became governor once janet napolitano went to washington to become homeland secretary, the governor after janet napolitano, jan brewer gave her state of the state address, regardless of the tucson anniversary, regardless of gabby giffords, regardless of arizona's own history with gun violence, jan brewer's own treatment of that issue today in her state of the state address was that she emphatically would not be infringing on the right of law-abiding gun owners. that's all she had to say. in d.c., though, there is the previous arizona governor janet napolitano at the right hand of the vice president in this meeting abou
lapierre of the nra is making an all out call to oppose all new measures for safety -- gun safety. he's against it all. >>> plus the right wing chorus calls the president's inaugural address too liberal. but the latest poll shows that most americans happen to agree with the president. what's the problem? >>> let me finish tonight with what we saw all day. a strong, confident, and happy secretary of state hillary clinton in a winning performance. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> republicans in the northeast of this country that criticize. chris chri
where they pass laws-- >> the n.r.a. says they want more effective enforcement of existing laws, that's what the executive branch is supposed to do, and where the executive order does nothing more is authorized power. >> sean: banning assault weapons would not do that. >> he's not going to ban an executive order of all the weapons. >> sean: you'll come back tomorrow if he does. >> i'll come back if banning executive orders-- >> last word, congressman? >> do you want don to speak. >> sean: yes, last word congressman cotton. >> we'll see what the content of these executive orders are, it's hard to imagine some of them won't overreach the constitutional powers as he has on so many other subject matters when he can't achieve the bipartisan consensus he needs because frankly there's a bipartisan consensus-- >> and i am a funny feeling i'll have you back here and by the way the best looking guy on tv, i don't care what they say about you in d.c. thank you for being with us. controversy over a new video game that lets the player shoot at at of n.r.a. president. and we have much more on a bus
down with the nra. the administration looks to move quickly, even if it means circumventing congress. >> the president is going to act. execbetive action can be taken. we haven't decided what yet but we are compiling it all with help from the attorney gen and the rest of the cabinet members. as well as legislative action, we believe is required. >> dana: so, bob, let me start with you. you have done legislative affairs for a white house. if you are trying to get a big piece of bipartisan legislation passed through congress do you think it's a good idea that you are planning to circumvent them in the end anyway? >> bob: i'm not sure it's the best strategy you can use. but look, some of this has to be done by executive order because you would never get it through congress. the other thing is the public division here. there are those of us who believe that these things, guns, a lot of guns, in my view all handguns ought to be eliminated. i understand majority of people don't belief that. >> dana: the white house says they don't believe that. >> bob: i know. they don't go far enough. tha
congress. the president has one major fight on his hands. the nra labelled him a hypocrite and called out his daughters. yesterday, senator ted cruz accused the president of exploiting the murder of children to push through gun control legislation, and then there are the real nuts out there. a movement of people who say that the sandy hook tragedy was a hoax. the real purpose was to create a political environment to take away all our guns. the american public is largely on board with at least some of the president's agenda. in a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, more than half, 56%, say laws covering the sale of firearms should be stricter. so what realistically can the president do? david corn is washington bureau chief for "mother jones," joy reid is managing editor of thegrio.com, and both are msnbc political analysts. joy, how large should he be looking? >> i think the president needs to go in with a large package obviously, but when you talk to individual lawmakers, particularly on the house side, you get the sense two things have to happen. first of all, something has to pass
tough decision. they stay with the nra and they endanger their re-election because in those districts, 70%, 80% of the people want these sensible measures. they want background checks for everyone, no exceptions. they want high capacity magazines banned. they want assault rifles banned. it's going to be a real test all over this country. >> michael steele is here. michael, you're a reasonable guy obviously. let's look at these numbers. "the washington post" numbers on gun show background checks, 88% support. this is a new "washington post" poll here. overwhelmingly support these. 88% support gun show background checks, which we don't have really today. 76%, three-quarters, approve the gun checks when buying ammo. 71% say yes to a federal gun database. that's important. 65% support a ban on high capacity magazines, and 58% support a ban on assault weapons. it gets tougher about the assault weapon ban, and i think that's why harry reid, the head of the democratic party in the senate, is nervous about submitting it to the congress because he figures it won't pass the house. >> two points
tread very lightly. they'd better be very careful. they have wandered in and followed the nra whose made some horrible pr mistakes over the past month. republicans better be careful and think twice before they make their next move. >> right. >> remember, one of the reasons the numbers are so high on background checks is because most people believe that those background checks already happened. >> right. >> they don't think that's a change in the law. >> right. >> so you're on really weak ground when people haven't got a clue and they actually support something they think is law. so the education part of it is one aspect of it. but you've also got the sheer power, the emotion of the 9/11 families style approach where you've got the sandy hook families coming in, it's very hard to oppose -- it's not about the president. you've got -- it's not even about bloomberg's money that's going to go into the advertising. the emotional force of the sandy hook families is just like it was with the 9/11 families. and republicans have got to face up to that. frankly, democrats have to face up and grow a
coming from the right is any indication, the president has a major fight on his hands. the nra has labeled him an elitist hypocrite and called out his daughters who receive secret service protection. yesterday senator ted cruz accused the president of exploiting the murder of children to push through gun control legislation, and then there are the real nuts out there. a movement of people who say that the sandy hook tragedy was a hoax. the real purpose was to create a political environment to take away all our guns. the american public is largely on board with at least some of the president's agenda. in a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, more than half, 56%, say laws covering the sale of firearms should be stricter. so what realistically can the president do? david corn is washington bureau chief for "mother jones," joy reid is managing editor of thegrio.com, and both are msnbc political analysts. joy, how large should he be looking? >> i think the president needs to go in with a large package obviously, but when you talk to individual lawmakers, particularly on the house s
in a minute, but first your thoughts. will the regular gun owners, the people that are in the nra in pennsylvania and they vote, democrat or republican, are they going to go with the crazies like james yeager? we're going to show him and alex jones again. >> you know what's crucial to this is what clinton did back in '94. remember, he got an assault weapons ban through congress over the nra opposition and opposition to many republicans and some democrats, and the way he got it was by bringing the cops, the police -- >> but how many seats did he lose? >> he lost a lot of seats. you have to keep the fight going after you win. so the way to get people to side with responsible gun control, gun violence prevention, is to make this a wide coalition to show them that, hey, you're with people who like to shoot, you're with people who care like cops. it's not just liberal dems -- >> i agree. >> that's the key here as we go forward. >> the raw story website got ahold of this threatening video from this fellow i mentioned, james yeager. he's ceo of a group called tactical response, and he's
want to know what you think. tonight's question, will the nra and republicans block responsible gun legislation? text a for yes. text b for no to 622639. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring results later on. joining me tonight is katrina van den hubbell. the conversation is elevating on all levels. with the hysteria coming from the right wing, is it going to make it tougher to get more reasonable gun legislation in this country? >> yeah, but i think you're right, ed. i think we're at a crossroads. it's a singular moment for to end gun violence there is a poll out today showing the nra at its lowest opinion point in years, largely because of wayne lapierre's speech written by satirist jonathan swift. gabby giffords and her husband have founded a pac called americans for responsible solutions. it will be a lift to count whatever they call -- think of gabby giffords. she calls the nra an ideological fringe whose big money and lobbying influence has cowed too many in washington. but we see the example of governor cuomo. and if i could just add about governor chris
the vice president and represents the nra rather than wayne lapierre who i think cost the nra a huge, huge percentage of people who support the nra, obviously. but universal background checks gets the door open, and maybe then you can get high-capacity magazines. >> 75% want that also. so i keep missing the political minefield of why a republican can't move on guns. i'm not seeing it. i look at the numbers. >> look at the 100,000 new members of the nra, literally, now, of all times? it's a pretty deep division, andrea mitchell. >> and i have seen no sign, even though they very smartly did keep wayne lapierre out of the white house meeting, i don't see any sign that the nra is ready to give on the background checks, even, which they ought to. but they have not conceded anything. they feel really empowered, as mika just pointed out, the rise in members, they say rise in money, but it isn't their grass-roots membership that really matters, it's the clout they have in washington. they feel really empowered by this, and guns are leaping off the shelves even as the vice president was sitting dow
. that will pit him squarely against the nra. >> everything that's been proposed impinges on people who have every right to own firearms. >> reporter: the nra has long been a lobbying force like no other. its unwavering opposition to gun control immortalized by its late president, charlton heston. >> from my cold, dead hands. >> reporter: recent polls suggest an opening for some gun control. a majority now favoring a ban on semiautomatic handguns. but it would be a mistake to think the nra's influence has waned. in the three weeks after the shooting in newtown, connecticut, the nra added more than 100,000 new members. jonathan karl, abc news, the white house. >>> and even as the vice president was holding those meetings in washington, another school shooting was taking place. this time, in california. police say a student snuck a shotgun into school and then struck one classmate in the chest and fired on another. fortunately, a heroic science teacher was able to talk him down and disarm him. a sheriff said that the 16-year-old gunman told investigators he targeted the two students because they had
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